“The theory that birds are the equivalent of living dinosaurs and that dinosaurs were feathered is so full of holes that the creationists have jumped all over it, using the evolutionary nonsense of ‘dinosaurian science’ as evidence against the theory of evolution,” he said.
“To paraphrase one such individual, ‘This isn't science . . . This is comic relief.’” -->(!!!)<--

Apsaravis ukhaana

New Fossil Found In Mongolia Provides Insight Into The Origin Of Living Birds And The Evolution Of Flight
"The discovery in Mongolia of the fossil of a new bird, Apsaravis ukhaana, that lived about 80 million years ago, sheds new light on the evolution of birds. The nearly complete specimen of the small pigeon-sized bird was found at the locality Ukhaa Tolgod in the Gobi Desert of Southern Mongolia as part of the ongoing joint expeditions of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Mongolian Academy of Sciences."

80 Million years ago... a specimen the size of a small pigeon-sized bird, in Southern Mongolia that did not come from T-Rex in North America and although it was Asian territory, it still precedes Velociraptor.

Creationists make a mockery of Evolution by proclaiming "Darwin taught man came from a chimp."
No Darwin did NOT teach man came from a "chimp."
But now, some fanatics have taken a step of maximum-overreach and teach that somehow T-Rex got access to a time machine, went back in time, and evolved into a chicken.
Creationists mock darwin by drawing a cartoon of a cow evolving into a whale.
The shoe fits.
That's an apt-summary of the dino-bird theory..
Not only do the locations of the creatures conflict, but the dates as well.
Evolution does show examples of similar species, evolving into new species, in the general environment -- unless gifted with ability of migratory flight or swimming, or a logical explanation for how they moved across large geographic locations. Also over 10's or 100's of millions of years, one group can evolve into new species which have been modified (but seldom the "drastic extreme") as would be required, in warm-blooded birds supposedly evolving "from NON-warm-blooded" dinosaurs.

An interesting list of ancient creatures (not all of them are birds) with the ability to fly, part of which has already been explained as convergent evolution (developing the ability to fly, independently and un-related to birds).

I am attaching a list of birds with approximate dates they arose.


Sadly, it is almost impossible to know about the TRUE origin of birds (fossils which are known) because every time you google up the name of a primitive bird species like "Apsaravis ukhaana" searching for a professional recreation of what the fossil might have looked like in life... you get a flood of images where pseudo-darwinists are trying to superimpose "dinosaur" looking characteristics on the bird fossils, or dinosaurs with feathers to misleadingly appear to be bird-like, which is not only very annoying... it is outright misleading.

Alan Feduccia called it "the meltdown of paleontology."

One image of Apsavris ... "sadly... lacking a skull."
(Source). But they make certain to add that skull in with face that looks more like a dinosaur, than a bird.

There was a professor who once warned against doing that very thing.
He mentioned that since fossil remains were never recovered which proved the specimen had legs, it was better to leave the specimen OUT of the list. But since some were very eager to re-draw the fossil with legs anyway.... he said, to leave it out of the list... his advice,

"...Protocetus is very poorly known, no limbs, no tail, no lower jaw, just a skull and a bunch of vertebrae. Protocetus was for years the best known cetacean (hence it was described as well known) but no limbs for it were known (and are still not known). For Protocetids, there are limbs and feet. Protocetids are a bigger group than Protocetus. Protocetids include Protocetus, but also Rodhocetus, Artiocetus, Indocetus, Georgiacetus, and some of those have better skeletons. So at this point some whales are better known."

See below. True birds in red. Dinosaurs in green.

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"The Jews integrated into Greek culture around 300 BC. Notably, much of the modern Biblical literature is actually Greek. Enlightened Greek thought becomes apparent in the opening of Genesis. "One of the first evolutionary theories was proposed by Thales of Miletus (640–546 BC) in the province of Ionia on the coast near Greece followed by Anaximander (550 B.C.) who speculated that life evolved from the water; lower forms of life, in a very primitive precursor to evolutionary theory."

Namely this *ouch!*

Evolution and Paleontology in the Ancient World
"...For Anaximander, the world had arisen from an undifferentiated, indeterminate substance, the apeiron. The Earth, which had coalesced out of the apeiron, had been covered in water at one stage, with plants and animals arising from mud. Humans were not present at the earliest stages; they arose from fish. This poem was quite influential on later thinkers, including Aristotle.
Had Anaximander looked at fossils? Did he study comparative fish and human anatomy? Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing what evidence Anaximander used to support his ideas. His theory bears some resemblance to evolutionary theory, but also seems to have been derived from various Greek myths, such as the story of Deucalion and Pyrrha, in which peoples or tribes are born from the Earth or from stones. His concept of the apeiron seems similar to the Tao of Chinese philosophy and religion, and to the "formless and void" Earth of the Hebrew creation account and other creation myths. However, even though Anaximander's ideas drew on the religious and mythical ideas of his time, he was still one of the first to attempt an explanation of the origin and evolution of the cosmos based on natural laws."

(Source, ucmp.berkeley.edu History)

[Sadly, what the site fails to mention is that the oldest known biblical manuscripts date no earlier than around 300 B.C., therefore, Anaximander (610-545 B.C.) could not have based any of his concepts on Biblical Hebrew. However it can be deduced, the Hebrew Genesis account was borrowed from mainstream Greek philosophy.] [The analysis by Harvard and several other University sources are quite impressive: (Scala Naturae of the Bible, Charles Darwin and Ancient Greek Philosophy)]